Comments on: Are ‘We The People’ Willing To Treat The Cau$e, Or Will We Continue To Submit To The Symptoms Of Fear? (by Andy McGee) http://www.thirstyquill.com/2009/11/21/are-we-the-people-willing-to-treat-the-caue-or-will-we-continue-to-submit-to-the-symptoms-of-fear-by-andy-mcgee Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:03:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Scott Wizeman http://www.thirstyquill.com/2009/11/21/are-we-the-people-willing-to-treat-the-caue-or-will-we-continue-to-submit-to-the-symptoms-of-fear-by-andy-mcgee#comment-631 Scott Wizeman Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:05:42 +0000 http://www.thirstyquill.com/?p=1274#comment-631 Much more clear Andy, thank you, and I happen to agree with your radical idea of limiting powers. I also understand those limits to be clearly written in our Constitution, but the political class has spent such a staggering of collective time in our nations law school, they have- as a ruling class- figured out how to so dilute what they communicate from the laws they actually enact that what they say and what they do are really two different things. All that is required, and this is where the Tea Party movement comes in, is a return to the foundations of our Government which is plainly laid out in our Constitution. Those of us who believe such, I happen to be a Libertarian though political parties are all represented, are scaring the wits out of the political class who exist only to further their own cause- which is true regarless of party. From that perspective I understand the terrified people, and think we are alarmingly close. My solution is as radical as any: which is a strict interpretation of the Constitution and with that comes limited powers. The problems then are many, chief among them would be elimination of Federal Income Tax which is totally unconsitutional, and the addition of some national sales tax, which would pass constitutional muster. It would mean that not only do we vote in each November but that we have the power every time we got out to do anything. Congress gets the power of the Purse, but we keep the power of the Deposit. We vote then with both ballot and revenue. How's that for radical? Much more clear Andy, thank you, and I happen to agree with your radical idea of limiting powers. I also understand those limits to be clearly written in our Constitution, but the political class has spent such a staggering of collective time in our nations law school, they have- as a ruling class- figured out how to so dilute what they communicate from the laws they actually enact that what they say and what they do are really two different things. All that is required, and this is where the Tea Party movement comes in, is a return to the foundations of our Government which is plainly laid out in our Constitution. Those of us who believe such, I happen to be a Libertarian though political parties are all represented, are scaring the wits out of the political class who exist only to further their own cause- which is true regarless of party.

From that perspective I understand the terrified people, and think we are alarmingly close. My solution is as radical as any: which is a strict interpretation of the Constitution and with that comes limited powers. The problems then are many, chief among them would be elimination of Federal Income Tax which is totally unconsitutional, and the addition of some national sales tax, which would pass constitutional muster. It would mean that not only do we vote in each November but that we have the power every time we got out to do anything. Congress gets the power of the Purse, but we keep the power of the Deposit. We vote then with both ballot and revenue. How’s that for radical?

]]> By: Andy McGee http://www.thirstyquill.com/2009/11/21/are-we-the-people-willing-to-treat-the-caue-or-will-we-continue-to-submit-to-the-symptoms-of-fear-by-andy-mcgee#comment-621 Andy McGee Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:32:26 +0000 http://www.thirstyquill.com/?p=1274#comment-621 Hey Scott, thank you for the kind words. I for one believe that all writing worth reading is in some way or another maddening at soem level. I admit that I am more of an obscure writer than a journalist. The thoughts evoked by what I am saying are part of what I wanted to happen when I wrote it. As it relates to alternatives (not to sound like a tea-bagger) but I do think removing the power from the President and other elected officials is necessary. How is that for radical? My reference to “a terrified people toting an impotent list of meaningless choices” refers mostly to our political choices, but if forced to elaborate could include professions, social settings, all the way down to the "paper or plastic" George Carlin so eloquently refered to back in his day. I hope you find this enthusiastic enough. I, like many have just worked way to hard for 13 hours today for, what seems to be, way to fruitless of an endeavor. Please feel free to drill down with me as I hope that together we may stumble upon some type of answer to how we may together discover real alternatives to these real threats. Hey Scott, thank you for the kind words. I for one believe that all writing worth reading is in some way or another maddening at soem level.

I admit that I am more of an obscure writer than a journalist. The thoughts evoked by what I am saying are part of what I wanted to happen when I wrote it. As it relates to alternatives (not to sound like a tea-bagger) but I do think removing the power from the President and other elected officials is necessary. How is that for radical?

My reference to “a terrified people toting an impotent list of meaningless choices” refers mostly to our political choices, but if forced to elaborate could include professions, social settings, all the way down to the “paper or plastic” George Carlin so eloquently refered to back in his day.

I hope you find this enthusiastic enough. I, like many have just worked way to hard for 13 hours today for, what seems to be, way to fruitless of an endeavor. Please feel free to drill down with me as I hope that together we may stumble upon some type of answer to how we may together discover real alternatives to these real threats.

]]> By: Scott Wizeman http://www.thirstyquill.com/2009/11/21/are-we-the-people-willing-to-treat-the-caue-or-will-we-continue-to-submit-to-the-symptoms-of-fear-by-andy-mcgee#comment-620 Scott Wizeman Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:21:25 +0000 http://www.thirstyquill.com/?p=1274#comment-620 Mr. McGee, I have enjoyed your interesting contribution here. In part because I think we agree on several points such as corporate interests, the political class, and media bias. My concern is that I don't understand how "radical change" is impacting those real threats, nor do I hear clear challenges or real alternatives to them, and that after reading this three times I'm still more confused than I should be about what you're saying. Leveling the charge that we could be reduced to "a terrified people toting an impotent list of meaningless choices" is very a fanciful construction but really leaves me grasping for what you mean. I look forward to your clarifying and enthusiastic reply. Mr. McGee,
I have enjoyed your interesting contribution here. In part because I think we agree on several points such as corporate interests, the political class, and media bias. My concern is that I don’t understand how “radical change” is impacting those real threats, nor do I hear clear challenges or real alternatives to them, and that after reading this three times I’m still more confused than I should be about what you’re saying. Leveling the charge that we could be reduced to “a terrified people toting an impotent list of meaningless choices” is very a fanciful construction but really leaves me grasping for what you mean. I look forward to your clarifying and enthusiastic reply.

]]> By: Andy McGee http://www.thirstyquill.com/2009/11/21/are-we-the-people-willing-to-treat-the-caue-or-will-we-continue-to-submit-to-the-symptoms-of-fear-by-andy-mcgee#comment-612 Andy McGee Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:13:26 +0000 http://www.thirstyquill.com/?p=1274#comment-612 Do you want to call it or should I? Do you want to call it or should I?

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