RANKING THE PRESIDENTS: #39 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Crooks, Criminals, and Cheats” (Part 2)
By Corey Thompson, filed in Corey Thompson, Presidential Rankings on Jan.09, 2009
***(Editor’s Note: Leading up to Inauguration Day on January 20th, “The Thirsty Quill” is publishing a series entitled “Ranking The Presidents.” There is no ‘exact science’ to these rankings other than personal opinion based on such factors as policy, performance, popularity, perseverance, integrity, and legacy. Aside from those Presidents ranked in the top 25% and the bottom 25%, there is a great deal of ‘wiggle room’ for discretionary placement and movement. These rankings are strictly the personal opinion of the Editor of ‘The Quill,’ and should not be regarded as an academic survey of any type. Debate of these rankings is highly encouraged and appreciated.)***
#39: Bill Clinton (1993-2001)
Let the heckling begin…
I am quite certain that this will be viewed as one of my more controversial selections, and I will have to present a strong case to support my feelings about President Clinton and his legacy.
Make no mistake, Clinton knows how to charm…and how to keep up ‘the image’ while wading in the moral mud that has plagued his entire adult life. This tells me one thing: he’s either a darn good politician, or a damn good actor. His charismatic demeanor, handsome appearance, and “good old boy” smile have kept him ‘in the club’ of Washington’s elite insiders…and in the good graces of an American public that idolize him even today.
Maybe it was (and still is) his amazing capacity to deliver a moving speech or eloquent roast. Maybe it was his saxophone routines on late-night television and his interviews with MTV. Or, maybe it was the fact that most people looked right through ‘the image,’ and saw the truth: a broken man with questionable character and limited moral fortitude, who looked a whole hell of a lot like the rest of our society…and it made those very people feel ‘ok’ about their own lack of noble characteristics. After all, if the President is doing it, it’s got to be ok for the rest of us, right?
I will give credit where it is due. Clinton did balance the budget and he left office with our nation reaping the benefits of a sizable surplus. These are facts that shed a positive light on Clinton, and they cannot be ignored.
Yet, what else did he really do that keeps him so highly ranked in many current public opinion polls?
Most point to the economic progress and growth of the 1990s. Yet truth be told, the bulk of that prosperity was generated by the wave of the technology and internet boom that swelled during the decade, and therefore cannot be directly tied to Clinton’s policies or leadership. Historians and economic scholars continue to debate Clinton’s role and impact on the economic explosion, but the reality of his direct influence is nearly impossible to confirm with hard evidence.
If one is to argue that Clinton was the main source of economic leadership and guidance that oversaw the stock market surge, then by the same token one would also have to conclude that our current housing crisis was forged by his hands as well. By pressuring banks and lenders to provide loans to those who could not afford them (under programs intended to prohibit discriminatory practices in lending), the die was cast under his watch that has resulted in a weakened housing market and the highest rate of foreclosures our nation has seen in quite some time. This has, of course, played a remarkable role in our current economic recession…not to mention the long-term consequences it will wreak on property values across the country.
Clinton’s tenure was oversaturated with scandal and subsequent investigations. The Whitewater scandal revealed to the American public for the first time just how far back Bill and Hillary Clinton’s questionable business practices went, and Clinton’s pardons for the longtime associates of friends and family members remain a point of contention to this day.
Yet the deepest dent in Clinton’s armor was his uncanny knack for inappropriate sexual behavior. We all know and remember the Monica Lewinsky scandal, the blue dress, cigars, and their sexual escapades inside the Oval Office while he was supposedly engaged in Presidential duties. The 22-year-old intern’s trademark beret is still a well-recognized symbol in our collective conscience. The investigations that followed and Clinton’s denials (then wavering, and ultimately caving) led to charges of Perjury and Obstruction of Justice. Clinton was only the second President to be impeached, but like Johnson, he escaped removal from office.
Beyond Lewinsky, Clinton has been accused of inappropriate advances, sexual harassment, sexual assault, numerous extra-marital affairs, and multiple activities that Americans should not expect from their Commander-in-Chief. Names like Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Elizabeth Gracen, Kathleen Willey, and Sally Perdue were among the dirty laundry list that has left more than a cheap stain on Clinton’s legacy. Surely they can’t all be wrong, can they?
As President, Clinton also managed to go eight years in office with relatively few problems or international crises to deal with. His terms coincided with the end of the Cold War, and his military cutbacks led to a false sense of security that would come back to haunt us less than a year after he left office. Surprisingly, Clinton found himself to be the benefactor of a fairly peaceful period throughout most of the world.
Beyond that, Clinton managed to sandwich himself into a position in which he could simply ‘pass down’ several of the lingering problems that he inherited when he defeated George H. W. Bush in 1992. By not dealing efficiently and effectively with a defiant Saddam Hussein in the face of U.N. resolutions, the uncured cells in Iraq were allowed to fester into a terminal case of cancer by the time George W. Bush stepped into office in 2001. I am a firm believer that BOTH George H.W. Bush (daddy) and Bill Clinton must share the burden that is the current Iraq War. Had they only taken care of Hussein during the first Gulf War, or when he violated the U.N. resolutions, perhaps our country would not be as divided on the current war that remains. Remember, even Clinton carried out military operations and numerous air strikes against Hussein and Baghdad…they were ineffective and failed to treat the disease. We’re paying for that mistake today.
There is also the unresolved issue of Osama bin Laden and the expansion of Al-Qaeda throughout the 1990s. While most are quick to point out the fact that we have yet to capture bin Laden under the leadership of George W. Bush, they have conveniently forgotten Al-Qaeda’s role in the first World Trade Center bombing back in 1993 (which left six people dead). They have also overlooked the dozens of attacks carried out by Al-Qaeda around the world during the 90s. These attacks occurred during Clinton’s terms, yet he has repeatedly dodged accepting blame in Al-Qaeda’s later success, and has often been overly critical in George W. Bush’s handling of the War on Terror. It just doesn’t make sense.
And still, despite all of these things, many Americans today are quick to offer Bill Clinton a “Free Pass” and hail him as an above average President. I, for one, would love to know why…
Notable Quotations: “There is nothing wrong in America that can’t be fixed with what is right in America.”
“The future is not an inheritance, it is an opportunity and an obligation.”
Famous Slogan/Phrase Associated With Clinton: “I did not have sexual relations with that woman,” (making reference to Monica Lewinsky…Clinton would later retract this statement and admit that he had not been forthright when he delivered it).





January 9th, 2009 on 7:01 am
The ranking of President Bill Clinton at a paltry number 39 on your list is quite perplexing. A military cutback under his leadership as our Commander in Chief is definitely not something that allowed the progress of the September 11 terrorist attacks. I would seem to remember a President George W. Bush receiving intelligence reports warning of such attack, however no proactive steps were taken. The current problem with Iraq is a mixture of failed diplomatic/political strategies, as well as the failed First Gulf War to quell the original problem. Nuclear weapons have yet to be located, the current Iraqi government does not have the legitimacy nor the proper training to stand on its own, and Al Qaeda is now calling some parts of Iraq home. We went into this second war under false pretenses. Need I remind everyone that, despite popular belief, Iraq was in no way a part of the attacks of September 11. The man that perpetrated these horrific events is still at large in the Middle East. President Clinton accomplished more in his administration than he is being given credit for in this ranking.
Under the leadership of President Clinton, the economy saw gains throughout most of his administration. It was good to see him given some credit in this area. Will I sit back and say that all gains in the economy were a direct result of the former President’s economic platform? No, the birth of the technology industry that we know today definitely had a hand in the boom of the 1990’s, but it was not the single determining factor in it. During the first two years of his Presidency, the United States averaged creating nearly 250,000 new jobs a month. By the end of 1994, the economy had the lowest combined ratio of unemployment to inflation than it had in the previous twenty five years. Clinton also presided over what could possibly be the biggest deficit reduction plan in the history of our country. If only we could control our spending now!
Let us not be so quick to say that President Bill Clinton was not at work on foreign affairs either. Have we forgotten the genocide in Kosovo? President Clinton oversaw the use of military force to end this genocide and stabilize the region. He was also proactive on the issue of Iraq. He warned of Iraq’s nuclear capability, and put into policy a regime change for Iraq that allowed for bombing on separate occasions. The Presidents only failure in the matter was removing the dictator from power. The problem with the current war is that it was unnecessary, and has now lacked the diplomatic strength to lift the Iraqi government to a successful stance of governing its own sovereign state. President Clinton expanded the Non Proliferation Treaty, helped oversee a cease-fire in Northern Ireland, and restored a democratically elected Haitian President to power. Not the “push over” foreign policy you would expect from someone ranked at number thirty nine.
President Clinton got to work on a problem that we have yet to rectify. Healthcare. President Clinton may not have had the best plan for a healthcare system that would be affordable and available for all, but he definitely got the ball rolling for debate on the issue, something we have not seen over that past eight years. President Clinton and Secretary of State Designate Hillary Clinton presented a huge overhaul of our current system. The bill was eventually defeated, but at least someone was willing to be proactive for a change in Washington. He introduced the Family Medical Leave Act, as well as a Children’s Health Insurance Program, the Adoption and Safe Families Act, as well as the Foster Care Independence Act. All of these bills helped to expand coverage to more and more Americans. Hopefully the new Administration and Secretary of Health and Human Service Designate Tom Daschle can get to work quickly to expand what President Clinton laid the ground work for so many years ago.
There is always so much to talk about when you mention the name, William Jefferson Clinton. Whether it be talks of economic booms or that of sexual misconduct, rest assured there is never a dull moment. Clinton once said that by lifting the weakest, poorest among us, we lift the rest of us as well. I think he governed in that same way. Through the creation of twenty-two million new jobs, NAFTA, healthcare reform, and increases in the minimum wage, President Clinton did try to lift the poorest and weakest among us. Wherever President Clinton ranks on your list, always know that everyone, and I mean everyone has a differing opinion of our 42nd President.
I have never posted on this site, but thought I could offer a little food for thought. I was just trying to offer a differing opinion and I would love to now what you think. I am not usually one to jump to Clinton’s defense all of the time, but thought it was needed here. Thanks.
January 9th, 2009 on 11:54 am
While I am at the exact opposite on the political spectrum, I have found these posts quite interesting. While we are only at the bottom of the list, I am intrigued to see how many of these men will have scandals and lies associated with them. I like to think that our forefathers who originally established this country would find this free speech and literary discourse to be the epitomy of what they stood for. It should not be too hard to understand people’s facination with Bill Clinton. Often some of our presidents who were extremely popular were involved in some of the most scndalous activities. Can’t wait to see where Bush #2 is on the list.
January 9th, 2009 on 12:36 pm
Another notable quote from Bill Clinton: “I can spend your money better than you can.”
On January 20, 1999, Bill Clinton was asked why he would not be open to initiate a tax cut if we have a surplus.
Clinton’s response:
“We could give it all back to you and hope you spend it right… But … if you don’t spend it right, here’s what’s going to happen. In 2013 — that’s just 14 years away — taxes people pay on their payroll for Social Security will no longer cover the monthly checks… I want every parent here to look at the young people here, and ask yourself, ‘Do you really want to run the risk of squandering this surplus?’ ”
Source: Washington Times, January 21, 1999
This is the liberal point of view in a nutshell. Take our money because we are not able to manage it responsibly or to make good decisions on how to allocate our funds…… and pour into programs and initiatives that are valued by the liberals. Actually…. this reminds me of the mindset of the United Way in Charlotte.
Look where that has gotten us.
January 12th, 2009 on 12:35 am
Justin and Olivia:
Thanks for the great responses.
Justin, you make some fantastic points, many of which I would nod in agreement with…except your thoughts on his placement of course! Seriously though, your comments are supported by some solid facts, and for that I say ‘well done.’ Remember though, this is all opinion based by a knuckle-headed Conservative like myself.
Olivia, I do (of course) have to “stir the pot” a bit with some of these if I want to get people to actually read and respond (wink wink). You’re right though, MOST of these men had some rendezvous with scandal or inappropriate behavior at some point…even many of the ones who are going to be perched inside the top-10. Strange isn’t it, how we’ve made them out to be immortal supermen over the years, when they were flesh and blood just like the rest of us? As for “W,” well, you’ll just have to keep checking back in to see where he lands!
Debbie:
Thanks for the good feedback as well. It’s too bad the whole United Way scandal has dampened the ’spirit of giving’ in and around the Charlotte area at a time when most organizations need it the most. Keep writing and submitting…we’re still awaiting your next feature article!
-CT
January 13th, 2009 on 10:09 am
Justin, I was wondering when the Bush bashing would begin, same old liberal swan song. You do however, give “Bill” WAY too much credit. In my opinion #39 is even too high for him. Regardless of what he did for the common good, (and I totally disagree with you on some of his accomplishments), his presidency is forever “stained” with the most disgusting, immoral act ever to take place in the oval office (that WE know about). Of course there are many Presidents who disrespected the office by their “indiscretions”, JFK, Eisenhower, FDR, just to name a few. But our country was deeply embarrassed by Bill’s graphic personal actions. But hey, let’s all give him a pass, he’s just TOO good a President to discount…. yeah, right.
Did Bush make mistakes? Of course he did, what President doesn’t? Is he the best president ever, of course not. Do I agree with his stance on some things, no I don’t, However, Bill had the opportunity to have Bin Ladin handed to him on a silver platter, yet didn’t have the guts to take him out. There’s plenty of blame regarding 9/11, especially flawed intelligence. Had Bill not hog tied the CIA’s hands, or reduced our military standings, we might be having a different discussion of W. The most important thing for this country is our sovereignty and our security. I for one, appreciate the fact that we have not had any more attacks on our homeland. I for one, will never give Bill a pass, he doesn’t deserve one. The leader of the free world should have enough respect for the highest office in the land not to air his dirty laundry, and make us the laughingstock of the whole world.
There’s a lot to be said for a decent and moral man, and for all of W’s shortcomings, at least he can claim that he respected the Office of the President.
As for inept and “worst” Presidents, don’t even get me started on Jimmy Carter!
January 13th, 2009 on 10:21 pm
Saying Bill Clinton is the 5th worst president ever does not even warrant a response. I think Bill Clinton was a fantastic President and the majority of this Country does as well.
Unfortunately it appears that the Quill suffers from the same infectious disease as the ludicrous neo-cons that it promotes on its home page. These people have sold out their ideals and the value of their opinions by sacrificing their credibility to be provocative instead of rational. I would hope there would be a way to be provocative and credible at the same time. I mean seriously, Bill Clinton is the 5th worst president of all time. OK. It is a shame because I find these little history lessons very entertaining. I would just hope they are based less on tribal partisanship and more on how these men performed.
Let me guess the top 5 based on this brilliant assessment:
1- Ronald Reagan
2- George W Bush
3- Richard Nixon
4- Herbert Hoover
5- George Herbert Walker Bush
Sheesh. Come on Quill, scream your opinions from the highest mountain, just keep your credibility.
January 13th, 2009 on 10:29 pm
You forgot the best quote ever:
“that depends on what your definition of is, is”
January 13th, 2009 on 10:34 pm
Andy,
Calm down my friend. Take a look at the corresponding “groupings” that are tied to each ranking, and then wait for the remainder of the list to be released before jumping to the conclusions you predicted above.
Please note that Nixon has already been ranked…#38.
As for the rest of the list, well, you’ll just have to wait!
Andy, you’re a bright guy and I’m sure you’re well aware of why I feel the way I do about a lot of things. Plus, what FUN would this “list” be if it weren’t at least a little bit controversial?
Enjoy the list my friend. Don’t put too much stock into it.
The last time I checked, nobody was interviewing me (or checking out this site) for any scientific data and polling results on Presidential Rankings.
Ah, the beauty of the right to have our opinions…
January 14th, 2009 on 11:50 am
Dude, I am a liberal, I stay calm. I just didn’t want you to feel like I dont care. Occasionaly we all need to be poked and pushed. My response was 100% sincere and I know you would not have it any other way. Please dont confuse my passion for distain as I fear there is far too little passion and far too much distain elsewhere in this Country. Keep up the good work and if, and when, I get in your kitchen just know it is because you are provoking thought and stoking the coals. Niether is a bad thing.
January 14th, 2009 on 12:36 pm
Andy,
Bill Clinton was a BAD presidant! He did nothing (except Monica Lewinsky) and he was warned to an extent about the 9/11 attack. Long live PRESIDANT GEORGE W. BUSH God love him and his family for all the bull crap they have had to put up with the last 2 years. I would have hurt somebody by now if somebody dissed me or a member of family as bad as he has been dissed. It is RIDICULOUS
January 14th, 2009 on 8:04 pm
Hey Shonda, Glad to hear from you and don’t worry, I love your family. George W Bush will forever be known as the President of Bad Precedence. By bad precedence I mean:
Opening the door to remove civil liberties by removing privacy with warrant-less wire taps to removing Habeas Corpus is at a minimum a bad precedent.
Removing requirements for energy plants to maintain the basic air quality conditions already set in place when he took office is a bad precedent.
Condoning torture and defending our men and women’s ability to perform torture for any reason is a bad precedent.
Allowing members of your executive branch to out CIA operatives who are related to people who have evidence that discredit the evidence your office used to build a case for an illegal war is a bad precedent.
I am not sure what part of Clintons balanced budget, worldwide support through sound, diplomatic foreign policy, and 8 years or genuine prosperity you guys don’t appreciate. Perhaps it is just me?
Love Always,
Andy
January 14th, 2009 on 8:08 pm
January 16th, 2009 on 11:56 pm
I was interested to read the list of “bad precedences” of which President Bush was accused. Two of the items on the list were actions used to protect Americans from those whose goals in life are to harm or destroy our people and the freedom we enjoy. Are you against such actions? Or do you prefer to allow terrorists to have private conversations with each other inside the United States? Just curious.
January 17th, 2009 on 1:10 pm
Thank you for the question Jenny. I am all for tapping any terrorist phone calls any where in the world. Hell I am all for hiding in there closets with a colt 45 and splitting their wigs open as soon as they go to hang up their dynamite belt up.
What I am saying is, that is sets a bad precedent to perform these wiretaps outside of the laws that are in place to protect people like you, me and the Quill from becoming political prisoners.
The fact is they can tap who ever they want to in a legal manner, with a warrant from the FISA court. If you think that it sets a good precedence for future administrations to allow the executive branch to operate around the rule of law set in place then I would love to hear why.
I assume the other item you disagreed with is the torture. Well if you disagree with me here then I am certain I don’t have the eloquence to persuade you other wise. Thanks again for the question and remember what a very wise man said more than 200 years ago-
Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.”- Benjamin Franklin
January 21st, 2009 on 10:18 pm
Interesting response, Andy. I suppose that in the end I view the actions of the President differently. I tend to be more conservative which would shed light on some of my views.
As a very wise man said more than 200 years ago-
“Conscious of this, she never wounds ’till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her.
Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America? The poison of her teeth is the necessary means of digesting her food, and at the same time is certain destruction to her enemies. This may be understood to intimate that those things which are destructive to our enemies, may be to us not only harmless, but absolutely necessary to our existence.”
Ben Franklin
January 22nd, 2009 on 8:21 pm
Touché. Jenny, I may be a dork but, man that was HOT!
But….. slightly different than abandoning Habeas Corpus, and torturing alleged terrorist. The main word being alleged. We cannot condone torture of non-tried suspects. If the Quill would be so kind as to add some context to Mr. Franklin’s cross hairs in this exclamation, that would be appreciated by myself and my new friend Jenny.
January 22nd, 2009 on 9:24 pm
Andy,
I believe Jenny was making reference to Benjamin Franklin’s comparison of America to a rattlesnake. Most people don’t realize it, but the rattlesnake was our first “mascot” back during the Revolution.
Below are two links. One shows some of the flags of the period, and the other is Franklin’s assessment of comparing America to the rattlesnake.
It was Franklin’s idea, although he tried to steer clear of ever taking credit for it. He would later propose the turkey as our national bird…hmmm. The snake though still has some historical significance.
I’m often asked about how our founding fathers would react to today’s crises. It is, of course, impossible to know for sure. However, we cannot mistake their flamboyant rhetoric about the foundations of liberty for them being pacifists. Doing so would be a huge error.
Those guys were the real deal, and they believed in the price of freedom. It often meant bloodshed and death. It was either their blood, or the enemy’s blood they often discussed. Most believed in doing whatever was necessary, even if it meant “bending” the rule of law a little.
We see this in the Boston Massacre (the events preceding the British opening fire). True history points out that it was actually OUR fault. We went to the Customs House to pick a fight. Under the direction of Samuel Adams and The Sons of Liberty, we sent two rival gangs of hooligans down to stir up trouble. Then, when we bumped a soldier and he fell, discharging his musket, the Lobster-backs opened fire on the hooligans (us). We then used propaganda (thanks to Paul Revere) to persuade our rebel brethren that we had been slain mercilessly. Truth be told, the Brits had every right to safeguard their property (Customs House), and we assaulted the “law enforcement” of the day. I could go on, but my point is that we haven’t always adhered to “the laws” of our principles in standing up for ourselves.
The Boston Tea Party is another excellent example. Vandalism, rioting, destruction of private property…and we pinned that one on American Indians (by dressing like them).
These are just two off the top of my head.
The bottom line is this:
We’ve always been a nation that has been willing to get our hands dirty and mix it up to stand up for our beliefs. We’ve often even gone so far as to bend the rules in doing so…human liberties be damned when it comes to protecting American ideals, American soil, and American blood.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots, and tyrants.” -Thomas Jefferson
(Story of Rattlesnake…and later, Metallica lyrics)
http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/rattlesnake.html
(Rattlesnake Flags)
http://www.foundingfathers.info/American-flag/Revolution.html
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-ratt.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag
January 22nd, 2009 on 10:16 pm
Quilly Quill,
With all due respect, to say that we have always been willing to get our hands dirty and mix it up for our beliefs and then say that we have often gone so far as to bend the rules in doing so is fair. However, to say Human liberties be damned is a contradiction in that the constitution calls on at a minimum human liberties.
January 22nd, 2009 on 11:04 pm
Andy,
Are you making reference to the same Constitution that was written by slave owners???
January 23rd, 2009 on 12:17 am
Mr. Franklin was, no doubt, called many things in his life, but I am certain that this may be the first time he was ever called “hot.” He may have just earned a top spot in the Quill rankings without ever being a president. haha.
January 23rd, 2009 on 2:28 am
AmI?
January 23rd, 2009 on 5:45 pm
I am very impressed and rather happy to see the elder President Bush and President Clinton to get along well enough to work together. It shows that political parties are not everything, and sometimes we need to work with someone who you once prayed to loose in order to do some good in the world.